George: "So when I said that you weren't doing very much, what did you think when I said that?" (Waits.) "Did you think you would do something different? "

Derrick (shakes head yes): "Uh huh."

George: "What did you do differently?"

Derrick: "I put the ladder up." (Gestures with his left hand.) Video shows replay of Derrick uncurling the ladder to reach its full extension. George immediately repeats: "You put the ladder up."

George: "Yeah, that's more interesting than just moving it back and forth."